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Tyson Gaylord

The Down and Dirty Truth of Transformation with Rachel Burr | Ep 111

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Imagine you’re a caterpillar who dreams of being a legendary butterfly, with Rachel Burr
Imagine you’re a caterpillar who dreams of being a legendary butterfly

Why Success Breeds Complacency and How Leaders Can Overcome It

Imagine you’re a caterpillar who dreams of being a legendary butterfly, soaring above the garden but feeling stuck in a patch of leaves. The world tells you all sorts of things—who you “should” be, the safe path to follow, and what box you belong in. It feels a bit safer to keep nibbling the same leaves, even if deep down you know there’s more to you.

Then one day, after slogging through some challenging moments and a series of “little clicks” (like slowly turning a combination lock), you decide it’s time to leave the comfort of the familiar and build your chrysalis. This transition isn’t glamorous; it’s gooey, awkward, and uncomfortable. Inside, you face your gremlins, your doubts, and your “imposter syndrome,” asking, “Who am I? Can I become something more?”

Tools for the journey

You learn tools for the journey: labeling your feelings, introducing a dose of self-compassion (and a sprinkle of humor), and experimenting—sometimes failing, sometimes surprising yourself. Sometimes you eat beans and rice on the floor (literally and metaphorically) to prove you can survive the scary unknown.

Eventually, you start to realize transformation isn’t about instant “aha” moments, but about collecting tiny victories and being kind when you mess up. Along the way, you meet other caterpillars, some struggling in their cocoons, and you realize the best way to help isn’t to do it for them, but to sit with them, listen, and support them through their goo.

When you finally emerge, wings damp but dazzling, you don’t just fly—you encourage the next caterpillar with a bit of laughter, a touch of honesty, and a lot of empathy. You didn’t just become a butterfly; you became legendary—because you embraced the messy, funny, sometimes sticky path of real growth.

So whether you’re facing tough decisions, stretching your leadership skills, or just trying not to be an accidental jerk at the pharmacy, remember: becoming legendary means accepting the journey’s goo, learning as you go, and spreading your wings with a smile. 🦋

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Key Highlights:

🦋 Face the Fear, Find the Goo
Rachel gets real about leaving her PhD program and the giant psychological leap it took to step off the “safe” path. She shares how true transformation isn't typically a lightning bolt moment—it’s a series of small, courageous clicks that eventually crack the lock wide open. If you’ve ever felt stuck or scared of change, this episode is for you.

✍️ Practical Tools for Tackling Self-Doubt
Rachel opens up about her self-talk in moments of uncertainty, and drops practical exercises for naming and processing fear. From journaling your worries to simply sitting in discomfort, Rachel’s advice is actionable and grounded in her decades of experience (plus, you can grab these exercises for free on her website—details in the show!).

⚡ Imposter Syndrome & Honest Conversations
Do you ever feel like you’re faking it or just waiting for someone to “find you out?” Guess what: even top leaders struggle with impostor syndrome. Rachel reveals the invisible scripts holding us back and how bringing our doubts into the light—whether with a coach, a friend, or even AI—can spark real growth.

💡 The Power of Humor and Human Connection
Rachel and Tyson discuss the vital role humor plays in personal development and forming genuine connections. Transformation is messy, but laughter makes the ride not just bearable, but joyful.


Meet Rachel Burr

Rachel Burr is an executive coach, leadership consultant, and people expert.
Rachel Burr is an executive coach, leadership consultant, and people expert.

Rachel Burr is an executive coach, leadership consultant, and people expert who blends sharp insight, bold action, and a touch of humor to transform how leaders lead. With over 20 years of experience spanning corporate, consulting, and psychological disciplines, Rachel helps high-performing executives and teams unlock their authentic leadership potential—because outstanding leadership isn’t one-size-fits-all. She holds dual master’s degrees in clinical psychology and organizational development, and brings deep expertise in group dynamics, human behavior, and people strategy.

Rachel partners with leaders across industries—from scaling startups to Fortune 500s—to navigate the “people part” of leadership. She creates safe, trusted spaces for honest reflection and courageous growth. Whether she’s coaching individuals, facilitating offsites, or guiding teams through complex challenges, Rachel empowers leaders to show up with clarity, confidence, and a sense of connection.

Her mission? Help leaders turn potential into performance by becoming the best version of themselves—and helping their people do the same.

Company Bio

Catamentum offers a comprehensive suite of coaching and consulting services designed to catalyze momentum and unleash potential in leaders, teams, and organizations. Their approach is grounded in four key areas:

  • Leadership Coaching: Personalized 1:1 or organizational coaching that combines analytical and emotional intelligence to help leaders gain clarity, overcome challenges, and achieve their goals.
  • Group Dynamics: Team coaching and workshops focused on enhancing collaboration, communication, and performance by identifying and leveraging team members' strengths, values, interests, and motivations.
  • Organizational Development/Business Consulting: Strategic consulting services that draw on over 20 years of corporate experience and expertise in data analysis to improve organizational effectiveness and bring out the best in both leaders and their teams.
  • Psychological Insight: Informed by a master's degree in Clinical Psychology, this service offers a profound understanding of individual and group behaviors, facilitating enhanced interpersonal communication and unlocking untapped potential within organizations.

Through these integrated services, Catamentum partners with clients to drive meaningful change and sustainable growth.

Visit Catamentum.com

Rachel Burr’s Book

Butterfly Goo: The Down and Dirty Truth of Transformation

Rachel Burr’s book, Butterfly Goo: The Down & Dirty of Transformation
Rachel Burr wrote the “Butterfly Goo: The Down & Dirty of Transformation”

🦋 Embrace the Mess and Transform

In Butterfly Goo, executive coach Rachel Burr dismantles the idea that transformation is a smooth, pretty glow-up. Instead, she shows just how messy it is, the goo, the chaos, and the soul-scrabble.

Part memoir, part self‑help guide, the book digs into real-life missteps, hilarious misadventures, and the messy breakthroughs that come when you lean into change. It's raw, funny, and—most importantly—authentic, with practical exercises at the end of each chapter to help you step into your own “goo moment” (amazon.com).

Rachel’s core message: You have to go through the goo to grow. The weird, uncomfortable, uncertain middle isn't a pitfall—it’s the metamorphosis itself. And with her guidance, even the muddiest moments become powerful catalysts for growth.

👉 Check out Butterfly Goo here


✨ Weekly Challenge ✨

This week, notice when you feel anxiety or any physical or emotional discomfort—basically, any time something shows up for you, whether it’s a feeling in your body or a thought. When that happens, pause for a moment. Instead of pushing it aside, get curious: ask yourself, “What’s going on? What am I experiencing right now?” Spend some time listening to what you’re telling yourself and sit with those feelings, even if they’re uncomfortable (“sit in the goo,” as Rachel puts it).
You don’t have to take any action beyond that, unless you want to. The first goal is to notice and be honest about your self-talk and reactions. If you want to take it further, Rachel says you can also consider: “What’s the conversation you want to have with yourself instead?”
Pause, notice your feelings and thoughts during moments of discomfort, and get curious about them. Listen to your internal dialogue. If you’re ready for more, think about how you’d like that internal conversation to go.

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